The Public Welfare Foundation donated materials to 150 countries and regions and who to deal with the epidemic situation of globalization by means of globalization. From matching various standards to facilitating customs clearance, the Customs has set up a green channel for goods and materials, which has also touched Ma Yun’s thinking about “globalization”. Twenty one years after the proposal of “let there be no difficult business in the world”, is he still full of confidence in “globalization” today when “anti globalization” is rampant? < p > < p > after the publication of China’s economic “semiannual report” in 2020, the CCTV news “theory of relativity” launched ten issues of “minister’s talk: the second half of the year, do it! 》On the basis of an exclusive interview with 10 ministers, Ma Yun was invited to talk about the customs and the next “customs clearance” of “globalization”. Ma Yun: I didn’t really love technology before. I think human beings are making progress, and technology is just a means. But today, technology faces great opportunities and challenges. How can we have a new relationship of production today? It is particularly important for China to develop domestic demand, consumption and production relations from investment, infrastructure and export. Let’s go back to customs. In the past, the import and export of containers, now is a variety of large and small packages. What kind of technology and production relationship do you use to deal with it? How to make statistics? How to tax? Meeting the needs of the people and convenience is both a challenge and an opportunity. Reporter: in an interview with “minister’s answer board” of CCTV news “theory of relativity”, director Ni chose “anti input” and “stable foreign trade” as the biggest challenges in the second half of the year. How to view the director’s choice? Ma Yun: I think it is very important to prevent the epidemic. But the other challenge is, how can China communicate with the world when millions of people are diagnosed worldwide? If we shut all the people out of the door, we can’t turn the customs into “iron gate”. “Globalization” also requires communication, which is a huge challenge. < / P > < p > sometimes I think that it is still simple for us to be an enterprise, and we don’t need to consider so many things. However, different countries have different responsibilities and different thinking problems. In fact, the challenge is great. But the bigger the challenge, the more different thinking is needed. < p > < p > Ma Yun: I’m retired now. No matter how big the challenge is, it’s not as challenging as the people on the post. I hope I can make more efforts for communication, technology development and the growth of young people. Ma Yun: in the past, when we talked about “customs clearance”, we meant “gateway” and we talked about supervision. In the future, the customs should move from “supervision” to “service”. Regulation is for development. No development, what does regulation do? The relationship between countries is under different standards, political challenges and political pressures. How to promote a new relationship and promote common thinking on development and cooperation will become a great challenge for the customs. Chen Wenling, chief economist of China International Economic Exchange Center: I think customs is the central nerve of domestic and international circulation. Facing the future, the customs should not only move from “supervision” to “service”, but also lead and promote the next generation of trade mode. Reporter: “Guan” is actually a kind of connection, connecting the world. Twenty one years ago, in 1999, you proposed “let the world have no difficult business.”. The world has changed a lot. What is the “world” in your mind? “Let there be no difficult business in the world” is our 21 year premise. In the past 21 years, many changes have taken place, but this mission will not change. From the first day of its establishment, Alibaba aims to make all small and medium-sized enterprises and all countries in the world to do business more and more simply through the Internet and this technological revolution. We should regard this epidemic as a growth, the growth of human society, the growth of “globalization”, and the growth of countries; we should regard it as an opportunity to change ourselves.