The Public Welfare Foundation donated materials to 150 countries and regions and who to deal with the epidemic situation of globalization by means of globalization. From matching various standards to facilitating customs clearance, the Customs has set up a green channel for goods and materials, which has also touched Ma Yun’s thinking about “globalization”. Twenty one years after the proposal of “let there be no difficult business in the world”, is he still full of confidence in “globalization” today when “anti globalization” is rampant? < p > < p > after the publication of China’s economic “semiannual report” in 2020, the CCTV news “theory of relativity” launched ten issues of “minister’s talk: the second half of the year, do it! 》On the basis of an exclusive interview with 10 ministers, Ma Yun was invited to talk about the customs and the next “customs clearance” of “globalization”. < p > < p > Ma Yun: how much influence you have, you have to accept as many challenges. When gates created Microsoft, he was one step ahead. There are a lot of people who scold you every day. There are always 1% or 2% people in the world who don’t believe what you say. Why take the time to get angry with them? So I don’t think I feel sympathy for gates. I even watch with appreciation that he is still fighting and doing his best. Today, he is not for fame, money or power. I think he has a responsibility to share with others. < p > < p > reporter: at the World Conference on artificial intelligence in July, you said that if in the past digital technology was to make life better, then in the future, digital technology will make human beings survive better. Are you more pessimistic or optimistic? Ma Yun: I think this is a more optimistic statement. I am optimistic that (Digital Technology) can solve many problems for today’s society and the world today. Originally, we regard the Internet, big data and artificial intelligence as icing on the cake. Today, it has become a must. (Digital Technology) becomes a part of our lives, and this era will come soon.